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Reply #540 - 06/23/26 at 20:27:18
 
Regan, was a failure, economically, actually.
Certainly not the best, not the worst.
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Reply #541 - 06/25/26 at 05:42:10
 
OK, just look at what  Trumpedo, the Lyin' "King", has done. He spent $14 million destroying the reflecting pool, $600 million tearing down the east Wing, and $60 million destroying the WH lawn, including destroying the Rose Garden. That is really a microcosm of what he's done to the US as a whole. EVERYTHING he's touched has turned to sh1t, and that's before even addressing how many laws he's broken and how many of YOUR rights he's violated, or tried to violate. Now you have NO restrictions on how much of your personal information is gathered or used. Under Trumpedo's "reign", you, as US citizens, have lost any trustworthy information from the government at all. ICE can come to anyone anywhere and kill or kidnap them, with no repercussions to the illegal Trumpedo Gestapo. Everything he's illegally taking, he's taking from YOU. He's made the world less safe for US citizens, alienated all of our allies, and is still trying to set himself up as a dictator.

What is wrong with MAGATs? Are they just that stupid? Do they really hate leftists so much that they'll destroy themselves rather than try an obviously better sysem? Whatever happened to the idea that the powerful are also responsible?
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Reply #542 - 06/25/26 at 07:09:31
 

 Everything looked good until you started with this nonsense: ICE can come to anyone anywhere and kill or kidnap them, with no repercussions to the illegal Trumpedo Gestapo.

 ICE agents can't walk into daycares and mass murder children with impunity.  It's plain stupid to claim ICE can kill anyone anywhere.  

 
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Reply #543 - 06/25/26 at 07:49:20
 
If they can kill ANYone ANYwhere without repercussions should be your concern.
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Reply #544 - 06/25/26 at 07:52:12
 
Trumpedo will be remembered throughout history as the traitor US President who shat on everything, everywhere, especially the People's rights. He literally cannot ignore the Constitution without destroying your rights.

The point is, I can LIST the rights he's taken away. None of you can list anything similar for Obama, Biden, or any other Democrat.
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Reply #545 - 06/25/26 at 13:58:26
 
Jan 6 was a FAILED VIOLENT COUP ATTEMPT. The fact that it failed, just like everything else Trumpedo has attempted, is what makes it a certainty. And that IS TREASON--- attacking the US Capitol can't be anything else.

All the spin in the world cannot change the facts. MAGATs are now trying to blame Biden. On that day, Trumpedo was still President. Also, why would Biden try to overthrow an election he'd just won?


Like it or not, Trumpedo is a pedophile, embezzler, felon, and TRAITOR.
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Reply #546 - 06/25/26 at 14:19:35
 
They want to call somebody trashing a liquor store during a protest riot a coup, but not a thousand people trashing the Capitol building while chanting "Hang Mike Pence" or "Where's Nancy"?
What would have happened if they had caught Pence or Pelosi?
Would they have sat them down for a civil discussion?  Grin
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Reply #547 - 06/25/26 at 14:23:06
 
BTW, the MAGAT spin on the pool was (Trumpedo says.) that a 350 ft slash was done to the lining with a razor or sharp knife. In court, the Park Service REFUSED to bak that claim under oath, saying that there were cut marks on a sealing strip and the paint was just peeling with no cuts at all.
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Reply #548 - 06/25/26 at 15:06:57
 

If they can kill ANYone ANYwhere without repercussions should be your concern.

 It would be if it were true.  Again, everything looked good until you go overboard with nonsense.  Some ICE agents have made bad decisions, some agency leaders have stated bad directives, but nowhere is there an indication all ICE agents can indiscriminately kill any human with zero repercussions.  

 But it sure sounds good when you are pissed off and you are illogical when you are pissed off!
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Reply #549 - 06/25/26 at 15:08:47
 
And that IS TREASON--- attacking the US Capitol can't be anything else.

 Not according to the US Constitution, but you have clearly indicated none of that applies if you don't like it.  

 A US Citizen can literally bomb the US Capitol killing every politician inside, and that is not TREASON.  

https://www.google.com/search?q=A+US+Citizen+can+literally+bomb+the+US+Capito...

https://www.congress.gov/crs-product/R46829
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Reply #550 - 06/25/26 at 15:11:58
 
I think it would take me 2 or 3 days to make a 250ft cut in latex rubber 2 ft under water with an exacto knife

Ohhhh! my back!  
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Reply #551 - 06/26/26 at 04:09:37
 
It was treason, whether the law recognizes it or not. The whole abortion debacle PROOVES that laws do not necessarily follow reality. As Dickens said, "If the law says that, then the law is an ass." The GOP has always operated "parallel" to statutes. They look at laws forbidding what they want to do as something to work around, not something that restricts THEM. But, for the sake of arguing, I'll accept he cannot be hanged for treason. He is guilty of other felonies, especially the Jan 6 FAILED COUP ATTEMPT.

https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/2385


Oh, and 8 people have died at the hands of ICE "officers" this year, and thats not counting the ones that died in "custody". Alex Pretti and Renee Good were MURDERED on video, and no one went to jail. You say there are a few of them that  made bad decisions. OK, why aren't they in jail? If you kill someone in cold blood, it's murder. Oh yeah, since they're wearing masks, how does the public know which ones committed the crimes? That means ALL masked ICEholes are going to be treated as guilty.
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Reply #552 - 06/26/26 at 04:21:50
 
The "slashed pool" lie is just more Trumpedo BS.

He, being a "universal stable genius" knows everything. That means, if he looks like he's wrong, someone else must have caused it. It's a circular argument, though that does not make it truth.

He LIES.
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Reply #553 - 06/26/26 at 06:11:26
 
Needles wrote on 06/26/26 at 04:09:37:
"... Alex Pretti and Renee Good were MURDERED ..."


 NOP !

They were trying to Kill people they were told to.

So, a person can NOT, "Defend", themselves ??????

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Reply #554 - 06/26/26 at 06:30:24
 
Oh, and 8 people have died at the hands of ICE "officers" this year, and thats not counting the ones that died in "custody". Alex Pretti and Renee Good were MURDERED on video, and no one went to jail. You say there are a few of them that  made bad decisions. OK, why aren't they in jail?

 Because of the Supremacy Clause and Federal Immunity in most cases.  This doesn't mean ICE as an Agency can go to a local swimming pool, shoot everyone in there like fish, and be immune from prosecution.  


If you kill someone in cold blood, it's murder.


 Not all homicides are murder.  None of this means ICE as an Agency can stroll up to a 4th of July Parade and gun down people on the sidewalks with immunity.  You make an unrealistic exaggerated claim to a very real issue, thus making your argument childish whining and not a real adult conversation.



Oh yeah, since they're wearing masks, how does the public know which ones committed the crimes?

 You mean how we don't know who shot Renee Good and Alex Pretti - except that we do know?  Masks aren't the problem.  Having LEO function as riot control when they aren't trained in riot control is the problem.  Law Enforcement across the nation wear masks in cold weather literally since law enforcement began.

 Masks on LEO are like masks during COVID.  People cried and moaned and used blatantly false data to mental gymnastic their way around other actual problems.  

 
That means ALL masked ICEholes are going to be treated as guilty.

 So you complain that Trump sh!ts on the US Constitution, then claim all humans that work for an agency are guilty of murder without due process.  So you also sh!t on the US Constitution.
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