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MN ICE shooting
Yesterday at 20:23:08
 

 Look for the "lady in pink jacket" viewpoint if you want to see what happened with more clarity.

 Pretty textbook over stimulus reaction in my opinion.  This is reminiscent of the CA subway shooting where the intended taser shot was with a lethal weapon in my opinion.

 This type of training is hard, in my opinion.  In my opinion there is definitely a lack of proper education, probably, in my opinion, due to shortened or rushed training cycles.  This is an opinion.
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Reply #1 - Today at 05:34:31
 
Any audio recorded on that event ?

A Video clearly show a 'gun' imprint.

Was he asked, Do you have a gun ?

(Above are questions,
below is also a question)


If you viewed a gun imprint.

Would you ask,
or wait to see
if it was a, 'toy', or a, 'real', loaded one ?




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Reply #2 - Today at 05:36:49
 
No amount of training will stop the murderers in ICE. The victim had a legal firearm. They took it without his once ever going for it. Then they shot him multiple times. It was another ICE execution. ICE is an ILLEGAL force, from their actual operations record. They ignore ALL of the Constitution, especially the 1st theough 5th Amendments--- which were added for the explicit purpose of stopping sh1t like this from happening. Trump IS coming for your guns...




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Reply #3 - Today at 06:02:16
 
Saw what looks to be a legit video where during the incident, his gun became visible, an officer yelled “Gun”, at least one officer starts to pull his own weapon, another one seemed to grab the gun from the man’s holster, step back, the gun seems to fire. At that point, the other officers fired.

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Reply #4 - Today at 06:45:19
 

Saw what looks to be a legit video where during the incident, his gun became visible, an officer yelled “Gun”, at least one officer starts to pull his own weapon, another one seemed to grab the gun from the man’s holster, step back, the gun seems to fire. At that point, the other officers fired.

 Agreed.  My opinion is I agree.

 My opinion is the video shows he was never reaching for a gun, and the clothing + officer orientation and speed leaves no room for gun-imprint recognition.  They were placing him under control by chaotic means, his firearm came into view while holstered and his hands were not engaging with it, then an audible warning resulted in premature discharge of a lethal weapon by LEO.  This is an opinion.

 Too many LEO were engaging him at the same time, at least one officer yelled "Gun" and another fired.  Then other's fired.  This is an opinion.

 This post is an opinion.
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