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Re: HD vs. Savage: the battle wages on
Reply #75 - 03/27/05 at 10:40:13

Maybe I'm just "stunned" (Newfspeak for "stupid") or somethin' ... but I really don't get the "H.D. vs anything" debate ... if it's got 2 wheels then I like it ... of course though, being a human being with "tastes and preferances", I like some kinds of Bikes better than others ... i.e. the Savage/S40, the Intruder/S50, Rebel 450 and the 883 Sportster being my personal faves ... to be honest though, when I first got into motorcycles, I didn't know a Savage was "fit to eat" (more Newfspeak) ... was looking to replace my old 250 Rebel, sat on a neighbours old '86 Savage and thought, "this'll do me!" ... it had a 650 engine and it fit; that was it.
I've since educated myself on the various types of Bikes available and the potential pros and cons of each model, but ultimately what it boils down to, is whatcha like (or don't) ... that's it and that's all that really matters ... well that and "enjoying the Ride"!
Ride whatcha want and Ride Safe 8)!

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Re: HD vs. Savage: the battle wages on
Reply #76 - 03/27/05 at 11:06:16

quikbike wrote on 12/31/69 at 16:00:03:

You think anybody wants to hear your constant barrage of insults towards HD? ..

if you read all the posts on this thread, it's not so much the machine as it is the people who buy a hd for the image that we look down upon. you know the guys that trailer their maching to an event, let the bikes sit there for every one to see, and that's the only time they take them out, thinking they are bikers. a biker is someone who chooses to ride their bike, what ever type make or model, rather than their cage.

this is a conversation of savage owners on a savage site, it's not like we go to other forums and raise a stink, like you have here. please show a little decorm when visting sites you do not normally visit, that includes ours. while we do share technical information, and are willing to help, this is basically a social forum. for really technical stuff try berts site. here's a link http://www.heise-workstations.de/ls650/Fragen/LS650-Fragen-backup.html

feel free to join our discussions, but do so with respect in our "home", as we would do at yours.

i hope your wife enjoys her savage, and her motorcycle too. Roll Eyes

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Reply #77 - 03/27/05 at 12:01:54

The Blast is an under $5K 500cc 360# Street Thumper in sportbike trim. If you just gotta have American it is your only choice for a small street bike. If you want a thumper it is a good choice as the engine lacks the fine counterballancing of the Savage and it shakes considerably more. But it's in sportbike guise which isn't supposed to shake. You might call it a sheep in wolf's clothing.

If I'm going to go the sportbike route I want smooooth -- which for me means an inline four. (I can still remember listening to the first 4-cylinder Honda in Detroit -- sounded like a sports car rather than a bike.) You pay for the extra cylinders, but you do get what you pay for.

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Reply #78 - 03/27/05 at 15:43:48

Sluggo I'd expect that from I person with an avitar like yours. Excuse me but I am a Savage owner and don't believe any disrespect was shown. A discussion involves two sides typically. I've been shadowing this forum since getting the Savage in November. Thanks though for the invite out to someone elses forum. Nice real nice.

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Re: HD vs. Savage: the battle wages on
Reply #79 - 03/27/05 at 16:41:45

quikbike wrote on 12/31/69 at 16:00:03:

Sluggo I'd expect that from I person with an avitar like yours. Excuse me but I am a Savage owner and don't believe any disrespect was shown.....

"I'd expect that from I person with an avitar like yours" is disrespect. As is "You guys whine like a bunch of Goldwingers" and "Send me some of what your smoking...."

My condolences to your wife.

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quikbike Guest	Re: HD vs. Savage: the battle wages on Reply #80 - 03/27/05 at 17:48:55 and thin skinned too....maybe you should get a moped. and she doesn't need your condolences
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Gitarzan Serious Thumper 2004 No Login Offline ! Posts: 827 Columbus, Oh, Earth, Solar Sys Gender:	Re: HD vs. Savage: the battle wages on Reply #81 - 03/27/05 at 17:54:54 [glow=yellow,2,300]A picture is worth a thousand words... [/glow]
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Re: HD vs. Savage: the battle wages on
Reply #82 - 03/27/05 at 18:31:58

quikbike wrote on 12/31/69 at 16:00:03:

Sluggo I'd expect that from I person with an avitar like yours. Excuse me but I am a Savage owner and don't believe any disrespect was shown. A discussion involves two sides typically. I've been shadowing this forum since getting the Savage in November. Thanks though for the invite out to someone elses forum. Nice real nice.

i dont get the "i'd expect that" remark.

i informed you of what the problem was with guys who buy hd's for an image and gave an example. i also stated my position that i don't care what you ride, as long as you ride. if you have been lurking since november, you will see i have never badmouthed a machine, just posers.

next you stated you were looking for technical information to which i directed you to a forum where that is the focus, one many of us visit, and there i offer them a chance to be social here. so whats the problem with that.

i then asked you to show respect when visiting our little community.

i did this with respect and with no personal attack. but all you choose to focus on is the little picture at the bottom of the post. my hardcore biker brother (a member of the spokane chapter of the angels) thought it was pretty darn funny.

i had some really good personal attacks ready to go but my dearly departed mother taught me "if i don't have any thing nice to say, don't say anything" so i won't go there girlfriend.

i will say this though, you are welcome to your opinion, just check you attitude at the door please, because one thing we do take pride in is our ability to agree to disagree. as long as it comes with respect.

fyi my brother has more respect for me and anyone who chooses to be different in what they ride than the lemmings who buy want to buy a lifestyle. those are the people we bag on.

and finally you can see how our members react to one of us being attacked. my advise is this, play nice or don't play at all.

i would love hear your response, as long as it's an intelligent thought out reply, rather than "i'd expect that from a person", one you don't even know.

btw, happy easter.

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Re: HD vs. Savage: the battle wages on
Reply #83 - 03/27/05 at 18:36:34

Git, THAT is in poor taste, even by my low standards.

When I rode HDs, I liked HDs. After having a few too many lemons, I gave up on it. Would I have another one? Maybe, if I could find a good deal on a 64 or older BT or a 45 Flattie. Although I'll still keep my patch flipped...

When I rode Honda, I liked Honda. Ditto the other brands.

I like ANY bike that the owner actually rides. I hate any bike that gets trailered anywhere it goes. A show bike is a like a show car. If it can't be used the way it was intended, why bother? Advertising for your shop? Okay, but it would draw more positive attention if you rode it. Just my opinion.
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Re: HD vs. Savage: the battle wages on
Reply #84 - 03/27/05 at 19:07:59

I dunno, everyone liked it a few months ago when it was my tagline.

Actually, I wouldn't mind a Harley. I've got a $20 lottery ticket on a FatBoy. 1 out 1500 tickets to be sold isn't too bad odds. If I win it, I'll sell it to pay the taxes. The rest will go for a other stuff, mebbe a motorcycle, mebbe hookers.

It's just the Harley "people" who are condescending about any other bike that's non-HD. I go poker runs that are almost 100% HD riders. About 1/2 don't care what anyone rides. The other 1/2 are the ones I gun for. The ones the ask me if I plan to get a real bike. I usually tell them, "I'm thinking about a V-Star," and they leave me alone.

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Reply #85 - 03/27/05 at 19:18:08

Wow, this thing went sour from last time I checked in.

I like just about everything that runs and goes bang.
Darn resale is so good on an HD they're hard to find cheap. That's the only reason I don't have one (yet).

I posted earlier asking about the 1200 Sportster because I wanted more SPEED. Savagethumper suggested an SV650 and that got me considering a sportbike. Well, I wound up stumbling across a YZF600 sportbike yesterday, typical deal for me the bike needed a little work (30 minutes worth and it was running) and the owner was not a wrencher. Got it for $2000. My garage now has 3 bikes - the XR500, Savage 650, and YZF600.

My 65 Buick and 64 Impala have been temporarily evicted from the garage. My 2004 Suburban and 2004 Impala have never seen the garage.

I don't know how they do it with the sportbikes - 100 mph on the crotch rocket is not windy at all. My 11 year old daughter was with me and she said "we went how fast?" Seems like 20mph on the Savage. Must be the aerodynamics.

I still want a HD, an old one I can wrench on. But my speed quest is satisfied with the YZF.

Found a really cool 76 ironhead Sportster - 1000 I believe - on consignment in a shop nearby, asking price is $4200. I'm afraid to offer $2000, cause if they come back with $3000 I'd probably take it. Maybe WD can tell me what flies to look for on the old thing so I can "get a good price".

Only thing I don't care for is single-minded supremist zealots who think their bike-gun-car-religion is the only way. I get a kick out of spanking them with my old cheap inferior stuff when I have the chance.

I once beat a Browning supremist guy at the skeet range with my $150 Remington 870, and he got so mad he threw his Browning Citori on the concrete. I felt sorry for the Citori and made him an offer on it. That just made the guy more PO'd. That's my idea of fun.

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Gitarzan Serious Thumper 2004 No Login Offline ! Posts: 827 Columbus, Oh, Earth, Solar Sys Gender:	Re: HD vs. Savage: the battle wages on Reply #87 - 03/27/05 at 19:49:35 Looks like every day in Ohio for the last month. But! Warm Wx is scheduled this Wednesday! 70f!
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Re: HD vs. Savage: the battle wages on
Reply #88 - 03/27/05 at 20:23:48

Hey Bobo, how'd you like the snowy slush this morning?

Anyway, I didn't start this post for an argument. I was merely stating an amusing story about a recent ride with a friend and his Harley. I think Harley's are beautiful bikes. If I had the money, I'd have one, or a Victory, or a custom hardtail.

I will say that I agree, and understand where Sluggo is coming from when he rips on the "would-be" riders. I understood he was ripping the person, not the bike. It just seems that most of the people he was describing, ride Harleys. If the shoe fits..........

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bobo383 Serious Thumper 2004 No Login Offline Neck=Red Posts: 516 Arlington, TX Gender:	Re: HD vs. Savage: the battle wages on Reply #89 - 03/27/05 at 20:32:17 Weather sucks. Actually rode the XR500 this morning in the slushy stuff and avoided laying it down (although kissing would have been nice). You should have seen me on the crotch rocket in the rain yesterday. Had to do it, though, after getting it fired up and all.
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