SuzukiSavage.com - The "easiest" way to make the bike louder

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Reply #15 - 07/07/06 at 07:30:32

i was wondering how long it would take you, to want a louder voice for your thumper, after hanging out with the harley crowd Grin

debby's bike is quite loud, the muffler i put on it is a mere 17" long and straight thru Shocked

i got it free from the harley metal recycling bin (dumpster). it doesn't bother either of us, as the wind noise seems to be a louder annoyance in our ears than the open pipes on either bike. any opening of the exhaust will require rejetting of the carb, and may(probably) void the warranty. supertrapp advertises a slip on muffler that does not require rejetting, depending on how many discs are installed in the muffler.
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Dragon King Senior Member Offline Posts: 400 IL Gender:	Re: The "easiest" way to make the bike l Reply #16 - 07/07/06 at 08:12:41 I have the jardine kind of pricey but if you can find a used one the best way to go there was one in marketplace for sale. there was sounds in tech. not great but will help give you idea of sound
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vroom1776 Serious Thumper Offline Posts: 2110 Gender:	Re: The "easiest" way to make the bike l Reply #17 - 07/07/06 at 08:20:57 Pretty much any change to the exhaust or air intake will require a rejet of the carb, which is a reasonably easy process. Just drilling holes in the back plate of the stock exhaust will not, but a stock savage/S40 should be rejetted anyway, unless you live at altitude, but espescailly if you live at sea level.
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Reply #18 - 07/07/06 at 09:10:43

ok, now this is gonna sound really dumb...

what exactly is rejetting a carb?

can my bike shop do that? (can I trust them to do it) cause I dont have a clue.....

re: louder pipes and having a harley in the house now, people just NOTICE you are there when your bikes exhaust is louder........
More than anything that is what im after, not to compete with a harley.........

at bike nite the other nite, there were some guys there that the pipes were SO LOUD it should have been illegal...and they didnt hesitate to rev and rev and rev and rev......

I find that as annoying as when I went to a gym where there were alot of muscle heads that needed to excessively grunt while working out, i couldnt stand the "posers" either.......

not trying to be a show off with the pipes just want to be less of a target because they dont see/hear me.

Thanks again, you are all a great crew!

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Reply #19 - 07/07/06 at 09:16:32

Rejetting the carb basically involves:

1) removing the carb.
2) taking it more or less apart, cleaning it, and repalcing the lousy float bowl screws
3) changing the jets
4) changing the spacer on the needle
5) drilling out the PMS plug so you can adjust the PMS screw
6) put it back together and reinstall

There are many sets of instructions over in the tech sect.

What is a jet? Basically it's a specialty screw with a hole running all the way through it to let fuel go to the body of the carb, get mixed with air, and sucked into the engine. They are cheap and plentiful.

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Reply #20 - 07/07/06 at 09:24:07

thanks for explanation........

just called my bike dealer, he told me he knew of someone that put on a sportster muffler on my same year /model and the carb did not require any changing.

Hummmmmmmmmm

My husband just got an 06 sportster and is already complaining its not loud enough for him, maybe we should upgrade his pipes and use his muffler to upgrade mine?????

I dont even want to know what louder pipes would cost for his toy...............

you all rock!

b.t.w. what is the best book put out for maintence type stuff for these bikes, I have seen references for "?clymer? manuels?

thanks

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MacAttack Ex Member	Re: The "easiest" way to make the bike l Reply #21 - 07/07/06 at 10:07:16 If you have the money ($60!) the Suzuki service manual is the best. The Clymer one is OK, and it's about $20-25 on the net.
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Reply #22 - 07/07/06 at 11:24:12

Hey Starmom - you are right on target with your idea of migrating your hubby's Sportster muffler and upgrading him. Exactly what me and a buddy did. Connecting the sporty to your Savage's head pipe is simple. On mine, I got such a tight fit that I simply rotated the sportster muf until its mounting tabs pushed against the savage bracket thereby angling it out so the exhaust doesn't blow on the rear wheel/brake. No angled adapter and it isn't even bolted. The simple opposing pressures have kept it absolutely in place with no leaks for over 2 years now. Probably not the gold-standard as retro fits go, but it worked fine. Try mounting it first and see how it runs. Tackle the additional mods only if you need them. I dialed out the low end mixture screw about 1.5 turns, removed the white spacer and drilled 3 3/8" holes in the sporty's baffle. The only true carb work was removing the spacer - and that was debatable as to need. If I had it to do over, I would have stopped with the idle screw adjustment and left the baffle alone and probably left the spacer in. My bike runs strong, is moderately loud and deep in sound and gets 50 mpg. I still get occasional backfires, which don't bother me in the least. Don't sell yourself short. If you take it in incremental steps, you can handle it.

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911radioman Ex Member	Re: The "easiest" way to make the bike l Reply #23 - 07/07/06 at 11:42:28 pgolden wrote on 12/31/69 at 16:00:07: You can buy a Sportster muffler on E-bay cheap, Not here lately! I've been watching Sporty muffs and the last several over there have been fetching upwards of $70!
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Reply #24 - 07/07/06 at 12:31:54

starmom wrote on 12/31/69 at 16:00:07:

just called my bike dealer, he told me he knew of someone that put on a sportster muffler on my same year /model and the carb did not require any changing.

Rather interesting dealer statement since the bike needs to be rejetted the day it comes out of the crate unless you live at high elevation like 10k ft or so.

sorry just not a fan of most of them.

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Dragon King Senior Member Offline Posts: 400 IL Gender:	Re: The "easiest" way to make the bike l Reply #25 - 07/07/06 at 13:26:51 http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/COMPLETE-HARLEY-SPORTSTER-MUFFLER-KIT-SAVAGE-L... not a bad price
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yantis_flash Ex Member	Re: The "easiest" way to make the bike l Reply #26 - 07/07/06 at 14:31:53 Starmom,I got my supertrapp from the stealer,paid to much,I`am sure.I have had to make no changes so far.I read an article on The Thumper Page that caused me to try it,I like it. ; 8)
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klx650sm2002 Serious Thumper Offline The more I learn the less I know. Posts: 2041 Cumbria,England Gender:	Re: The "easiest" way to make the bike l Reply #27 - 07/08/06 at 03:02:13 If you are going for more noise get a less restrictive silencer and get more performance at the same time, will need a rejet though. Clive W
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Reply #28 - 07/09/06 at 08:30:44

vroom1776 wrote on 12/31/69 at 16:00:07:

Rejetting the carb basically involves:

1) removing the carb.
2) taking it more or less apart, cleaning it, and repalcing the lousy float bowl screws
3) changing the jets
4) changing the spacer on the needle
5) drilling out the PMS plug so you can adjust the PMS screw
6) put it back together and reinstall

There are many sets of instructions over in the tech sect.

What is a jet? Basically it's a specialty screw with a hole running all the way through it to let fuel go to the body of the carb, get mixed with air, and sucked into the engine. They are cheap and plentiful.

When you say to change the jets, are you meaning to replace them with new stock jets or something different than stock?

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Reply #29 - 07/09/06 at 08:34:50

My bike is a 98. I gutted the exhaust in 99. I still haven't rejetted it... I have the jets, I'm just too lazy to do the work. Air box snorkel is plugged by the voltage regulator/rectifier unit, air box door deleted. Paper air filter element.

Pre-apehangers the bike consistently delivered 70+ mpg commuting. Had a best of 85 mpg from Memphis TN to Sturgis MS, at highway speeds, in summer.

With apehangers the bike turns 55 or so mpg. City or highway. Shouldn't have baffled the tailpipe, it got better mileage running open with apes than it does "stick stoppered" with apes.

If I was going to redo the exhaust again, I'd just run to Wal-mart, buy a turn down exhaust tip, and run that instead of any kind of long pipe. You want to be heard/seen? I ran one for a day, and it blew holes in the gravel driveway... 8)
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