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Battery over fill question
04/07/08 at 13:55:28
 
Hi Folks,

I have been getting my S40 back in shape now that spring has arrived in Chicago, and last night I noticed that the stock battery was getting low.  I have been thinking of getting a big crank, but haven't taken the plunge yet.

Well, last night I removed the battery and filled the cells with distilled water, but I didn't notice until too late the the first and last cells are now both over filled.  It was hard to tell what the level was in the light I was in until I was finished and tilted the battery to shake it up a little.

So now both outside cells are around 1/4" ABOVE the high mark on the case.  This leaves little or NO room before the top of the battery case.   I am concerned that if I left it like that then when the battery got hot the electrolyte would expand and cause a mess of problems.

So I took the two caps off of those cells and was planning to let it sit for a few days to see if I can get some of the water to evaporate.

I have no idea how long it will take, but I will be checking on it when I get home.  Obviously there will be no open flames or sparks in the area, but I want to ask you experts if this is the right way to go about dealing with this issue.

I thought about maybe getting some kind of hypo-needle to remove some fluid, but decided to try this instead.

Any advise will be greatly appreciated.

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Re: Battery over fill question
Reply #1 - 04/07/08 at 14:00:56
 
Prophet you could always raid the house for a turkey baster, just remove what you need to get rid of.
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Reply #2 - 04/07/08 at 14:03:15
 
Your cells all connect to a common overflow gallery that leads to the vinyl tube that runs down to pavement level
(carefully routed as per owner's manual and shop manual of course).

When expansion takes place the two overfilled cells may put some bubbles of fluid into the gallery.  Some of the bubble volume will go into the next cell, some into the next cell and some may actually make it to the clear vinyl tube that runs down to pavement level.

In any case, the problem is self-correcting -- don't sweat it.  Ignore it.

Small amounts of acid exiting your battery in isolated "large bubble form" happens all the time anyway.

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Reply #3 - 04/07/08 at 14:05:43
 
All the cells are vented, hense drain tube.

If you're not charging, then there shouldn't be much danger of explosion as hydrogen is released as a product of electrolysis.  the caps were off too so any hydrogen should've floated off to neverland to meet mj.

1/4" is not much, I wouldn't worry (much)

If anal, use straw technique and get over it.

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Reply #4 - 04/07/08 at 20:19:25
 
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If you're not charging, then there shouldn't be much danger of explosion as hydrogen is released as a product of electrolysis.

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I wasn't charging the battery when I blowed'erUPP. I was running a grinder on the header, shooting sparks past the vent tube & she said"Kerblammy!" . Sounded about like a 22 shot. Cracked my battery & caused me a lot of tropuble cleaning & treating the acid exposure with baking soda & water.


 the caps were off too so any hydrogen should've floated off to neverland to meet mj.

1/4" is not much, I wouldn't worry (much)

If anal, use straw technique and get over it.

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I wouldnt sweat 2 cells slightly overfilled.
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Reply #5 - 04/07/08 at 21:55:07
 
justin_o_guy2 wrote on 04/07/08 at 20:19:25:
I wasn't charging the battery when I blowed'erUPP.  I was running a grinder on the header, shooting sparks past the vent tube & she said "Kerblammy!"  Sounded about like a 22 shot.  Cracked my battery & caused me a lot of trouble cleaning & treating the acid exposure with baking soda & water.

Ok, edit... With a battery that hasn't been charged in a while there shouldn't be much hydrogen lingering about, but I wouldn't check the levels with a lit match at any time. Shocked
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Reply #6 - 04/07/08 at 23:33:13
 
Naaah, me neither. I can see battery water level easy enough by shining a light behind the battery & looking thru it. I save my matches for checking fuel level. Hard to see in that tank,,  Grin
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Reply #7 - 04/08/08 at 07:04:44
 
You guys are funny. Grin

Well, I appreciate all of the comments.  I feel better about it now.  Having just about no experience with batteries, I didn't want to f*ck anything up.

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Reply #8 - 04/08/08 at 07:10:48
 
pssst... throw those antique, nasty, explosive, leaky, caustic, self discharging pos's away - AGM the bike and forget about this water level, trickle charge stuff
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Reply #9 - 04/08/08 at 08:24:24
 
Reelthing wrote on 04/08/08 at 07:10:48:
pssst... throw those antique, nasty, explosive, leaky, caustic, self discharging pos's away - AGM the bike and forget about this water level, trickle charge stuff


I hear ya Reelthing.  

I have read a few posts about needing to modify the terminals to install the big crank.  Can anybody be more specific about that?  Any photos out there??

Thanks!

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Reply #10 - 04/08/08 at 08:56:04
 
all you do is flat'n one side down on the cable connection - 10 second issue
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Reply #11 - 04/08/08 at 09:02:43
 
here's the original thread on it w/pics I think

http://suzukisavage.com/cgi-bin/YaBB.pl?num=1138061012/0
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Reply #12 - 04/08/08 at 11:13:33
 
Reelthing wrote on 04/08/08 at 09:02:43:
here's the original thread on it w/pics I think

http://suzukisavage.com/cgi-bin/YaBB.pl?num=1138061012/0



Thanks for that link - it's exactly what I was looking for!

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