This is my first post so please be gentle.

I've got a 95 that was not winterized (my own fault) and it's no surprise now it won't start.

I had it professionally serviced last year ($300) and replaced plug and battery.  About 3 months later wouldn't start.  Didn't ride it the rest of the year and now I'm trying to get it going on my own.

When I started I was able to get the bike to start with the choke pulled all the way but could not use throttle or push choke in or it would stall.

Here are the steps I've taken.
1. Oil/filter change.  Dumped about 2 gal of gas out of the oil pan tank was about empty.
2. New battery.  New gas with stabilizer added.
3. Pulled plug and it was carbon fouled. Cleaned it with wire brush.
4. Pulled the carb off and cleaned with Sea foam.  I'm going from memory so I hope I cover everything.  Pulled bottom bowl off, Float out along with the rubber tipped piece connected to it.  Pulled the brass piece the rubber piece went into.  Pulled the big flat head screw from the middle (it was plugged) pulled the top off and the 2 flat head screws with holes in them, both were plugged.  Plate off the right side and pulled the pin on the right side.  The carb was a mess (No surprise).
5. Put everything back togeather.
6. Killed the battery trying to get the bike started with no luck at all.  It wouldn't even start like it did before I started.
7. Charged battery ( 4-5 hours  @ 2amp )
8. Killed the battery trying to get it started, again no luck.
9. Put bat back on charger and repeated step 4.  Main screw on bottom of Carb was plugged again.
10. Checked the plug for spark, Spark good.
11. Put it all back together.  Noticed gas in the air box (about 1-2 inches deep)....
12. Killed battery trying to get it started no luck again.
13. Thought about it for 2 days.
14. Posted here asking for help.

What am I missing.  I plan on taking the whole thing apart again and making sure the carb is not plugged up again but before I put it together I want advice on things I might be missing/forgetting.

Viper_1942

Sorry.  See step two.  

See what I mean about the obvious?

Jason

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Do I read this to mean when you drained the oil it was oil plus about 2 gal of gas ?

The fuel in the airbox and fuel in the oil can get there a couple of ways either the float is sticking open or the petcock has failed or both.

When the bike was stored was the petcock in ON or to PRI?

You really need to figureout if the petcock has failed - the vacuum line that runs from the right side of the carb to the backside of the petcock should never have any fuel in it - if it does the diaphram in the petcock has failed - this will let fuel tank drain into the engine where the fuel will seep by the piston and into the crankcase over time - with some draining back into the air box

If it was left to PRI just a failed/stuck float can lead to about the same result  

See answers in Blue

viper_1942 wrote on 04/21/08 at 19:47:54:

viper_1942 wrote on 04/20/08 at 19:02:45:

0. Did you get it to start at all? or was this 3 months ago?
3. Replace plug (can't hurt)
4. Clean carb again, take off fuel line and clean out, take off petcock, clean fish net.
6. Once the battery starts to run down even a little, forget it.  It won't start on a weak battery at all.  You might hook up a volt meter and watch it.  If it drops immediately (don't know the minimum sorry) you may have a bad cell and need a new battery.
11. From before I take it.
14. I think I would have done as you have step by step.  

miles?
Was it running good when stored?

verslagen1 wrote on 04/21/08 at 20:24:46:



I put a new battery in last week and it did start but only with full choke and it died if I gave it any gas or pushed in the chock at all.

I may replace the plug if all else fails.  It's only been run for a couple hours since I put in the new plug last year.

I did take the petcock apart and cleaned everything.  Seems from previous posts though I will have to replace the diaphragm at a minimum if not the whole assembly.

Miles = 6,???
It was running great when I put it away.  Actually I really didn't put it away I just didn't ride it and then it got cold at sat.  When I did go to ride it on a nice day the battery was dead so I figured I would just wait until spring to get it going and here I am now.

I'm thinking the needle valve is the problem.  After looking over the service manual again for about the 6th time I did not realize that after removing the screw from the bottom of the Carb the inner piece could be pushed up into the carb to remove it and clean it.  I'm guessing that is why when I cleaned it the second time that part was plugged again.

She RUNS!  

I want to thank everybody for the support and advice.

I took the carb apart one more time and was able to get the needle jet out this time and clean it up.  While I had the carb apart I recleaned everything again.  Put it all back together turn the Gas to PRI carb filled up.  Pushed the Starter, she sputtered a bit.  Pushed it again and she started right up so I switched back to "ON".  Had to adjust the idle since I had messed with it before but she ran just like she used to.  Took it for a quick ride around the block with no problems.  Just a little bit of smoke off the muffler under the heat plate.  Guessing some gas/oil dripped down there.  Thats the next project. Take the heat shield off and clean that area up.

Thanks again.