Donate!
Welcome, Guest. Please Login or Register :: View Members
Pages: 1 ... 4 5 6 7 8 ... 11
Send Topic Print
Christine O'Donnell (Read 1448 times)
tcreeley
Full Member
***
Offline

SuzukiSavage.com
Rocks!

Posts: 224

Re: Christine O'Donnell
Reply #75 - 09/24/10 at 09:11:17
 
...and didn't GW fly jets too, like his father for the national guard, but skipped out early...somehow! Grin
Back to top
 
 

tcreeley

it is what it is
  IP Logged
Jerry Eichenberger
Serious Thumper
*****
Offline

2006 S40.  OEM
windshield, saddle
bags, Sportster

Posts: 2919
Columbus, Ohio
Gender: male
Re: Christine O'Donnell
Reply #76 - 09/24/10 at 10:39:23
 
Here's the deal on GWB's early out from the Air Guard:

First, his father was a Naval Aviator in WWII; he was not in the Guard.

GWB was a fighter pilot for the Texas Air Nat'l Guard.  He was in a unit flying F-102 fighters.  The F-102 was being taken out of service, as it was an old plane even back then.  Like is very common in Guard units even today, pilots with less than about 1.5 years to go in their service committment are usually offered an early out when the unit changes airplanes.  It costs hundreds of thousands of dollars to train a pilot for a new airplane.  It's far less expensive to let a "short termer" get out early than to train him/her for a new airplane that they will then only fly in the unit for a short time until they get out at te end of their normal committment.

The same thing happened in our Guard unit, when we switched from A-7 fighters, when they were taken out of srevice, and the unit bacame a tanker unit flying KC-135s.  Many of the piltos were offered an early out, and most took it, rather than have the gov't spend the money to re-train fighter pilots to fly heavy, multi-engine tankers.

Nothing at all unusual took place regarding GWB's early out.
Back to top
 
 

Jerry Eichenberger
Columbus, Ohio
  IP Logged
Serowbot
YaBB Moderator
ModSquad
*****
Offline

OK.... so what's the
speed of dark?

Posts: 29284
Tucson Az
Gender: male
Re: Christine O'Donnell
Reply #77 - 09/24/10 at 10:59:47
 
Jerry Eichenberger wrote on 09/24/10 at 10:39:23:
Nothing at all unusual took place regarding GWB's early out.

Except that he got in,... instead of going to Nam...
Back to top
 
 

Ludicrous Speed !... ... Huh...
  IP Logged
justin_o_guy2
Serious Thumper
*****
Offline

What happened?

Posts: 55279
East Texas, 1/2 dallas/la.
Re: Christine O'Donnell
Reply #78 - 09/24/10 at 11:08:47
 
Serowbot wrote on 09/24/10 at 10:59:47:
Jerry Eichenberger wrote on 09/24/10 at 10:39:23:
Nothing at all unusual took place regarding GWB's early out.

Except that he got in,... instead of going to Nam...





STOPPITT! My legs sore from slappin it..

Yep, aint that something? Got in the Guard, flying an obsolete plane, while the contract for the replacement was most likely signed, so, whoever assigned him to that unit may well have done so to make his tour short enough to keep him happy. Just a thot, not that thers ever any hanky panky in dc
Back to top
 
 

The people never give up their liberties but under some delusion.- Edmund Burke.
  IP Logged
Jerry Eichenberger
Serious Thumper
*****
Offline

2006 S40.  OEM
windshield, saddle
bags, Sportster

Posts: 2919
Columbus, Ohio
Gender: male
Re: Christine O'Donnell
Reply #79 - 09/24/10 at 11:28:13
 
Serowbot -

Your comment is insulting to Guard members.  Tens of thousands of people honorably served in the Guard and the Air Guard during the Vietnam era, as well as in the Reserves.  You diminish their service with remarks like that.

JOG -

Again, a conspiracy afloat, right?  If you knew much about Air Force hardware in the late 1960s and early 1970s, you'd know that this process was going on throughout the Army Guard and Air Guard.  Guard units historically got obsolete, or nearly so, equipment in those days (not today, but then).  It was an era when the Guard finally started getting equipped with more modern airplanes, as the Korean War era stuff was finally phased out of service.  While the F-102 wasn't a Korean War airplane, it was a 1950s vintage airplane that had long before reached the end of its useful service life.  Many of the pilots in that unit got the same early out.

Our Guard unit actually flew P-51 Mustang fighters, piston engine, prop driven airplanes until the late 1950s, long after all of the active Air Force has switched over to F-100 jets, and other Century Series jet fighters.

I remember an Army Guard unit in 1968 still flying Korean War Hiller helicopters.  I got my initial training with that unit in a helo with WOODEN rotor blades in 1968.

Before you float these silly theories, find out the facts.
Back to top
 
 

Jerry Eichenberger
Columbus, Ohio
  IP Logged
bill67
Serious Thumper
*****
Offline

old  tired

Posts: 8517
genoa city wisconsin
Gender: male
Re: Christine O'Donnell
Reply #80 - 09/24/10 at 11:52:09
 
GWB didn't show up for a lot of his reserve meeting,You know like no show George.
Back to top
 
 

william h krumpen
  IP Logged
Jerry Eichenberger
Serious Thumper
*****
Offline

2006 S40.  OEM
windshield, saddle
bags, Sportster

Posts: 2919
Columbus, Ohio
Gender: male
Re: Christine O'Donnell
Reply #81 - 09/24/10 at 11:59:05
 
Bill -

Yep, he missed a few drills, like most Guard members have of all ranks and jobs.  Again, when you know the facts, no big deal.
Back to top
 
 

Jerry Eichenberger
Columbus, Ohio
  IP Logged
bill67
Serious Thumper
*****
Offline

old  tired

Posts: 8517
genoa city wisconsin
Gender: male
Re: Christine O'Donnell
Reply #82 - 09/24/10 at 12:08:47
 
Its according to who your daddy is if its a big deal or not.
Back to top
 
 

william h krumpen
  IP Logged
Serowbot
YaBB Moderator
ModSquad
*****
Offline

OK.... so what's the
speed of dark?

Posts: 29284
Tucson Az
Gender: male
Re: Christine O'Donnell
Reply #83 - 09/24/10 at 12:19:07
 
Not intended to insult those that served, but... that particular assignment was very cushy and virtually guaranteed an in-country stint... a privileged group of senators sons landed those positions...
I intended to insult those select few....
Back to top
 
 

Ludicrous Speed !... ... Huh...
  IP Logged
Jerry Eichenberger
Serious Thumper
*****
Offline

2006 S40.  OEM
windshield, saddle
bags, Sportster

Posts: 2919
Columbus, Ohio
Gender: male
Re: Christine O'Donnell
Reply #84 - 09/24/10 at 12:23:36
 
How about the rest of the Guard pilots of that time?

Better yet, how about those who refused to join anything, certainly guaranteed to remain in the USA, like a certain guy from Arkansas who later became POTUS?
Back to top
 
 

Jerry Eichenberger
Columbus, Ohio
  IP Logged
WebsterMark
Serious Thumper
*****
Offline

SuzukiSavage.com
Rocks!

Posts: 13895

Gender: male
Re: Christine O'Donnell
Reply #85 - 09/24/10 at 12:26:49
 
Save your breath Jerry.....
Back to top
 
 
  IP Logged
Serowbot
YaBB Moderator
ModSquad
*****
Offline

OK.... so what's the
speed of dark?

Posts: 29284
Tucson Az
Gender: male
Re: Christine O'Donnell
Reply #86 - 09/24/10 at 12:35:52
 
"In May 1968, American soldiers were dying in combat in Southeast Asia at a rate of about 350 per week. George W. Bush was twelve days away from losing his student draft deferment (meaning that he?d be eligible for draft into the Vietnam War) when he abruptly decided that he should join the 147th Fighter Group of the Texas Air National Guard. In spite of the very long waiting list and having only scored the lowest acceptable grade on the pilot aptitude qualification test, this son of a Houston-based congressman managed to enlist on the same day that he applied, and a special ceremony was staged so he could be photographed swearing in for duty (a second special photo opportunity was arranged when Bush was commissioned a second lieutenant as Bush?s father the congressman [a supporter of the Vietnam War] stood proudly in the background). According to Shrub?s former commanding officer, Bush ?said he wanted to fly just like his daddy.? Other members of the Texas Air National Guard at the time included the aide to the speaker of the Texas House and at least seven members of the Dallas Cowboys professional football team; Bush?s 147th Fighter Group was known as the "Champagne Unit" because it also included the sons of future Senator Lloyd Bentsen and Texas Governor John Connally. "

The Champagne Unit,  for the very special with family influence... Huh...
Back to top
 
 

Ludicrous Speed !... ... Huh...
  IP Logged
Jerry Eichenberger
Serious Thumper
*****
Offline

2006 S40.  OEM
windshield, saddle
bags, Sportster

Posts: 2919
Columbus, Ohio
Gender: male
Re: Christine O'Donnell
Reply #87 - 09/24/10 at 12:58:46
 
Interesting - along with sons of those famous Dems, Bentson and Connally.

Seems like those three still did more than the gentleman from Arkansas.

As for apptitude tests, I seem to recall that Gen. Grant was at or near the bottom of his West Point class - he did fairly well in the real thing.

Regardless of what anyone thought of the publicity stunt that GWB pulled in flying out to that carrier, he went in a dual control airplane, obviously flown by a current Naval aviator whose name I can't recall.  The guy said in a later interview, some years after he got out of the Navy, that he let GWB fly the airplane during most of the time it took to get out to the carrier, and he flew like he was still on active flight status.

Again, what was Mr. Clinton doing during this time?
Back to top
 
 

Jerry Eichenberger
Columbus, Ohio
  IP Logged
buttgoat1
Serious Thumper
*****
Offline

SuzukiSavage.com
Rocks!

Posts: 1042

Re: Christine O'Donnell
Reply #88 - 09/24/10 at 13:20:20
 
bill67 wrote on 09/24/10 at 11:52:09:
GWB didn't show up for a lot of his reserve meeting,You know like no show George.


I think he voted "present" for all of those........
Back to top
 
 
  IP Logged
Serowbot
YaBB Moderator
ModSquad
*****
Offline

OK.... so what's the
speed of dark?

Posts: 29284
Tucson Az
Gender: male
Re: Christine O'Donnell
Reply #89 - 09/24/10 at 13:42:14
 
Jerry Eichenberger wrote on 09/24/10 at 12:58:46:
Again, what was Mr. Clinton doing during this time?

I was hoping you'd let that one go...

...but,... he was at Oxford on a Rhodes Scholarship...

...and he achieved it without a millionaire family dynasty, or politician fathers influence...
...you don't earn one of those 12 days before you're eligible for draft...
... and you don't earn it by scoring the minimum requirement...

Hardly comparable...

Quote:
along with sons of those famous Dems, Bentson and Connally.

There, you have a point... but I didn't vote their sons president either...
Back to top
 
 

Ludicrous Speed !... ... Huh...
  IP Logged
Pages: 1 ... 4 5 6 7 8 ... 11
Send Topic Print


« Home

 
« Home
SuzukiSavage.com
05/16/25 at 15:29:52



General CategoryThe Cafe › Christine O'Donnell


SuzukiSavage.com » Powered by YaBB 2.2!
YaBB © 2000-2007. All Rights Reserved.