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Running rough.
09/14/11 at 15:18:20

On Saturday I took the bike for a run to the lake and it ran perfect. On Tuesday I took the seat off to install a tank bib. Today I took it out to run some errands. It ran prefect to the first store, including a short run at 60 mph. On the way to the next store It was bogging down under moderate acceleration, and almost stalling at hard acceleration. I brought it home and it seemed fine with no load on the motor and idle was fine all day. No unusual noises from the engine.
I put it on prime and took it for another little spin. Same problem. On gentle acceleration it doesn't bog, but it won't run faster than 4500 rpm in 5th gear.
What I've modded: Raask exhaust, 2/3 white spacer mod, 55 pilot and 150 main jets, Dial-a-Jet.
Where should I start looking?

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Re: Running rough.
Reply #1 - 09/14/11 at 15:33:39

I'd start by checking the gas cap vent... (Try draining the tank while set to prime. Leave the gas cap on. See if you get a smooth, steady flow...
It wouldn't hurt to then pour that gas into your car and replace the gas with fresh...

Then,.. clean air filter, new spark plug,... then let us know...

(PS... don't know dialajet,... but can you bypass it?... Your jetting seems pretty good without it),... (maybe a little rich on the pilot, but that's not the problem)...

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Today at 2:50pm
EDIT... Oh, and check for bug legs in your main jet... Wink

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LarryC YaBB Newbies Offline ClingingToGod Posts: 33 Lower Alabama Gender:	Re: Running rough. Reply #2 - 09/14/11 at 16:17:57 3...2....1.....Petcock Failure.....Serow we have a problem!!!!!
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arteacher Serious Thumper Offline Ride as if your naked and invisable! Posts: 2581 London ontario Gender:	Re: Running rough. Reply #3 - 09/15/11 at 12:25:29 OK- I took the plug out and it's fine (a little bone white ash)-replaced it anyway. - drained the tank. There is lots of flow on prime with the gas cap on. - the vacuum line holds a vacuum. -air filter is good. What next?????
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MrBrownTX Full Member Offline Posts: 242 Caddo Mills TX Gender:	Re: Running rough. Reply #4 - 09/15/11 at 12:40:02 SEAFOAM?!?!?! (just instigating)
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Re: Running rough.
Reply #5 - 09/15/11 at 12:58:37

Added the mystical Seafoam yet?

Rap on the float bowl 3-4 times sharply with a large screw driver handle yet to resettle your float yet?

If these two have been done/don't fix it, you are likely doing a carb bowl teardown next, looking for signs of trash & whatever. You could empty your float bowl screw into a white ceramic bowl looking for trash, etc. as a before step if you wanted to take that extra step (no matter what you see or don't see next step is to take the bowl off anyway).

Your dial-a-jet needs someone who owns one to explain how to trouble shoot it -- for the rest of us it is just another "unknown potential cause".

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Do you run a large fine micron level paper pleated fuel filter as part of your rig? If so, no matter what happens you might consider putting one in place as what we are going after next is small gas borne trash that has blocked something up.

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arteacher Serious Thumper Offline Ride as if your naked and invisable! Posts: 2581 London ontario Gender:	Re: Running rough. Reply #6 - 09/15/11 at 13:06:26 I am almost positive the DAJ has nothing to do with it. The only thing that can go wrong with them is if they get plugged up, and I have a breather filter on it, and if it did quit working the bike would run a little lean is all.
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arteacher Serious Thumper Offline Ride as if your naked and invisable! Posts: 2581 London ontario Gender:	Re: Running rough. Reply #7 - 09/15/11 at 14:00:05 -pulled the float bowl and this is what I found: How the heck would it get in there? Also notice the black granules- fuel filter coming soon. It is missing a couple of legs. Should I take the carb apart looking for spider parts? or put it all back together and hope for the best. Does Seafoam dissolve spider legs?
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Oldfeller--FSO Serious Thumper ModSquad Offline Hobby is now "concentrated neuropany" Posts: 12686 Fayetteville, NC Gender:	Re: Running rough. Reply #8 - 09/15/11 at 14:30:04 Crawled down the vent tube from up under the gas tank. Rare, but not unheard of. Small filters can be bought at auto parts store to put on the ends of these little tubes that will keep the bugs out.
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Serowbot YaBB Moderator ModSquad Offline OK.... so what's the speed of dark? Posts: 29300 Tucson Az Gender:	Re: Running rough. Reply #9 - 09/15/11 at 14:31:40 Well,... while you've got the bowl off,... it wouldn't hurt to pull the jets and look at them... run a thin wire through them, spray some cleaner in 'em... also squirt some up the passages, etc... Somethin' must be blocked up somewhere... clean everything you can reach from there... ... then,... bury that spider... ...
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arteacher Serious Thumper Offline Ride as if your naked and invisable! Posts: 2581 London ontario Gender:	Re: Running rough. Reply #10 - 09/15/11 at 14:33:28 My vent tubes exit at the mouth of the air box. I was thinking I would stuff a bit of copper mesh in the tubes.
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Serowbot YaBB Moderator ModSquad Offline OK.... so what's the speed of dark? Posts: 29300 Tucson Az Gender:	Re: Running rough. Reply #11 - 09/15/11 at 14:50:25 ... bet you've got a bug leg in your main jet... Sure wish I'd suggested that in my first post... I'd be infamous!... ... Hmmm?,... Wait a minute... I think I did... ...
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Boule’tard Serious Thumper ModSquad Offline Master of the Obvious Posts: 1620 Austin TX Gender:	Re: Running rough. Reply #12 - 09/15/11 at 16:21:46 Where's that dern Routy when you need him?? By jove, it was an "intermittent blockage caused by a floating piece if debris!" Congrats on finding the BUGaboo, huh huh..
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Boofer Serious Thumper Offline Nearly too old. Posts: 1760 N Ms Gender:	Re: Running rough. Reply #13 - 09/15/11 at 18:16:00 That's why you can't ever say, "Now I've seen it all."
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verslagen1 YaBB Moderator ModSquad Offline Where there's a will, I want to be in it. Posts: 28997 L.A. California Gender:	Re: Running rough. Reply #14 - 09/15/11 at 18:23:16 spiders are not bugs.
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