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LostArtist Ex Member	About the "entitled" generation AKA millienials 02/26/16 at 12:17:54 Sure, there is some spoiled nature of the millennial generation, I'm not denying that, but on the education front, the "free" college whiners, well, here's something that makes a point about that.
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pg Serious Thumper Offline Posts: 5274 In Transit	Re: About the "entitled" generation AKA millienial Reply #1 - 02/26/16 at 16:24:33 All those college loans can not be canceled under any circumstances. I read an article where federal marshals in full gear went to collect $1,500. Best regards,
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Reply #2 - 02/26/16 at 19:40:49

All chiefs, no Indians, how does that work?
This whole notion that Everyone is supposed to get the degree and the cushy job.. how nutty is that? Or are we supposed to expect college educated people to fix flats, drive trucks, fill the order at the lumberyard... not everyone Can be educated. Not everyone Wants to be. I was offered a chance to go to Texas Tech by a man I worked for. He said I should be a teacher. I didn't see it.. I could pass the tests, but , gag Me, no Way I'd work in a school..
Underwater basketweaving. Understanding womens sexuality.
Geeeze Louise, American thinking has gotten so screwed up.
Everyone is entitled to everything. They Teach self esteem.
Good frikkin God, you got low self esteem? Go DO something. Accomplish something, feel better about yourself. It's not my job to get you to be happy with who you are.

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Reply #3 - 02/26/16 at 20:30:19

justin_o_guy2 wrote on 02/26/16 at 19:40:49:

All chiefs, no Indians, how does that work?
This whole notion that Everyone is supposed to get the degree and the cushy job.. how nutty is that? Or are we supposed to expect college educated people to fix flats, drive trucks, fill the order at the lumberyard... not everyone Can be educated. Not everyone Wants to be. I was offered a chance to go to Texas Tech by a man I worked for. He said I should be a teacher. I didn't see it.. I could pass the tests, but , gag Me, no Way I'd work in a school..
Underwater basketweaving. Understanding womens sexuality.
Geeeze Louise, American thinking has gotten so screwed up.
Everyone is entitled to everything. They Teach self esteem.
Good frikkin God, you got low self esteem? Go DO something. Accomplish something, feel better about yourself. It's not my job to get you to be happy with who you are.

you would indeed be aweful at teaching self esteem, but for some of us, it really is necessary, we aren't all born with this inner drive to feel that we are the greatest there ever has been. Most are born with some kind of inner drive for life, a euphoria for living, but not all. It's hard to accomplish something when you don't feel like anything matters, so until you learn that you are important to at least yourself, then that accomplishing things to make yourself worthy doesn't happen.

I agree that there are many more ways to be successful than just via a college education, but that spin is just now making a comeback, and with manufacturing jobs going overseas and wages being depressed as hell over the years, a college education was really the best shot a lot of us had at becoming successful, productive adults.

Now there has been a resurgence of non-standard industries that can be done without a college degree, and Thank God for that, but that's just recently come back into play for today's generation. By that I mean, it's just recently become less stigmatized than is used to be.

Yes our education system needs a complete redo, and notice that the Millennial in the argument I posted repeats that they are NOT looking for a free education, just explaining why they feel kind jipped now.

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old.indian Serious Thumper Offline Fighting Foreign Terrorism since 1492 Posts: 975 Central New Mexico Gender:	Re: About the "entitled" generation AKA millienial Reply #4 - 02/26/16 at 21:00:23 Sadly they fail to teach, or know, the difference between self confidence and narcissism. Self confidence comes with self respect. Narcissism comes with arrogance. "Do. You. Know. Who. My. Father. Is. !?!?" "No. I'm sorry. Don't you?"
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Re: About the "entitled" generation AKA millienial
Reply #5 - 02/27/16 at 07:52:33

old.indian wrote on 02/26/16 at 21:00:23:

Sadly they fail to teach, or know, the difference between self confidence and narcissism. Undecided

Self confidence comes with self respect. Narcissism comes with arrogance.
"Do. You. Know. Who. My. Father. Is. !?!?" Angry

"No. I'm sorry. Don't you?"

Perfect.......!!!!

I think you nailed part of the problem.....

Glossing over reality because it is uncomfortable, is like putting a band aid on a gangrene limb.

Here is an observation on how this mindset works.....

Ever see a severely deformed person at the store, etc?
We do all we can to pretend we don't see them because it makes us feel uncomfortable.
However, this person has become acutely aware of our reactions and would much rather a person be honest instead of pretending.....
They would rather have us say, "Whoa, what the fruck happened to you?' than to ignore them all together!

Oh, lets do away with a flag, it will fix your low self esteem and associated problems, just like a sweet hit off the crack pipe, temporarily.
While the real fix gets ignored, because it makes me feel uncomfortable, and I don't want to be called any R words, or cookie names, if I speak otherwise Angry

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Re: About the "entitled" generation AKA millienial
Reply #6 - 02/27/16 at 08:03:50

LostArtist wrote on 02/26/16 at 20:30:19:

justin_o_guy2 wrote on 02/26/16 at 19:40:49:

All chiefs, no Indians, how does that work?
This whole notion that Everyone is supposed to get the degree and the cushy job.. how nutty is that? Or are we supposed to expect college educated people to fix flats, drive trucks, fill the order at the lumberyard... not everyone Can be educated. Not everyone Wants to be. I was offered a chance to go to Texas Tech by a man I worked for. He said I should be a teacher. I didn't see it.. I could pass the tests, but , gag Me, no Way I'd work in a school..
Underwater basketweaving. Understanding womens sexuality.
Geeeze Louise, American thinking has gotten so screwed up.
Everyone is entitled to everything. They Teach self esteem.
Good frikkin God, you got low self esteem? Go DO something. Accomplish something, feel better about yourself. It's not my job to get you to be happy with who you are.

you would indeed be aweful at teaching self esteem, but for some of us, it really is necessary, we aren't all born with this inner drive to feel that we are the greatest there ever has been. Most are born with some kind of inner drive for life, a euphoria for living, but not all. It's hard to accomplish something when you don't feel like anything matters, so until you learn that you are important to at least yourself, then that accomplishing things to make yourself worthy doesn't happen.

I agree that there are many more ways to be successful than just via a college education, but that spin is just now making a comeback, and with manufacturing jobs going overseas and wages being depressed as hell over the years, a college education was really the best shot a lot of us had at becoming successful, productive adults.

Now there has been a resurgence of non-standard industries that can be done without a college degree, and Thank God for that, but that's just recently come back into play for today's generation. By that I mean, it's just recently become less stigmatized than is used to be.

Yes our education system needs a complete redo, and notice that the Millennial in the argument I posted repeats that they are NOT looking for a free education, just explaining why they feel kind jipped now.

WOW.....
A lot of supposition, but worthy of more introspect.

Can you address your observation about blue collar jobs vs. educated careers, leading to esteem issues?

I am not disagreeing with you, but wondering where this idea is manifested.

Could it be promoted by our own academia elite?

Kinda like how Madison Avenue assures us if we buy their product, our lives will be better ( self esteem ) because our neighbors will envy us, as we drive the nicest car, to the biggest house, in the neighborhood?

Gotta love how capitalism plays on the weakest link, eh Embarrassed

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justin_o_guy2 Serious Thumper Offline What happened? Posts: 55279 East Texas, 1/2 dallas/la.	Re: About the "entitled" generation AKA millienial Reply #7 - 02/27/16 at 18:18:26 It was my Lack of self esteem that drove me. Why do people not see how NEEDING to see oneself in a better light is a Motivating Factor? If you're Number One Why do you NEED to try? Telling a kid how great he is, before he has Accomplished anything, you remove ALL Pressure to Perform. It's So Simple.
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cheapnewb24 Serious Thumper Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 1373 Virginia Gender:	Re: About the "entitled" generation AKA millienial Reply #8 - 02/27/16 at 21:27:03 I think I'm considered a millenial, right?
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Ruttly Serious Thumper Offline Thumpers Rule Posts: 5496 Manteca , CA Gender:	Re: About the "entitled" generation AKA millienial Reply #9 - 02/27/16 at 23:11:35 Typical millienal doesn't even know if it applies to him ! That's the problem they all think their entitled . Get an education,get a career,then you will be considered for some respect ! Did I say that out loud ? Nothing personal that just a thought .
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Reply #10 - 02/28/16 at 14:07:06

I went over the generations in my business courses. It was just a little fuzzy. I have a doubtful personality. That's the way I am with a lot of things. Huh

Get an education? Already got some. Got sick of the educational system lately. Considering getting some more, though, since I don't want to be bored to death. I think I'll play it a little cheaper this time, though. I won't have so much gov't backing like I did before.

On the other hand, I sometimes doubt whether I would do well in school again. When I first went to college, I cared about excellence so much that I would drop a class and redo it if I couldn't get an A. I wasn't perfect. I failed a class or two, but I was doing relatively well. For a while, I was ready to be some sort of career student. The school I went to was a big Christian school that liked to pump up its students. Well, I was happy and pumped. Then they jerked the rug out from under me. Sad

. When I finished my classes, I was doing well to get something better than a C. Sad

Old wounds and emotional/spiritual problems have me down and broken. Sad

When you're inspired, all that work comes easy. Try it when you're torn up inside... It ain't pretty.

Spoiled and lazy? Yes... Entitled? Maybe...

That ain't the end of the story, though.

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Reply #11 - 02/28/16 at 14:54:15

That was not a personal attack
towards you , I don't know you. That was just a general attack , did not intend to offend you was intending to offend all ! I merely saw you as a classic example of the entitled generation. I always thought my generation was _ucked up due to drugs,rocknroll, etc. but your generation has us beat hands down , the Deevolution of man kind , beware the end is near and so are the millienals ! I'm sure of few of you will be our 2016 hopefuls at the olympics,oh the haven't added beer pong as a sport yet,there goes that dream !!!

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Ruttly Serious Thumper Offline Thumpers Rule Posts: 5496 Manteca , CA Gender:	Re: About the "entitled" generation AKA millienial Reply #12 - 02/28/16 at 14:55:23 I must be getting old & grumpy , NOT !
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cheapnewb24 Serious Thumper Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 1373 Virginia Gender:	Re: About the "entitled" generation AKA millienial Reply #13 - 02/28/16 at 14:57:03 It's all cool. I've got issues. It's true. I guess everyone does.
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cheapnewb24 Serious Thumper Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 1373 Virginia Gender:	Re: About the "entitled" generation AKA millienial Reply #14 - 02/28/16 at 14:59:51 What's wrong with some good ol' rock?
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