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Reply #30 - 03/01/16 at 08:46:24
 
Desert -
My daughter looked a several schools.  We're Catholic, so she first looked at Catholic schools like Creighton, Notre Dame, Boston College, etc.  Liberty was the cost winner, hands down.  And as I said, the quality of the program is really good.  I'm a lawyer, so having a graduate degree myself, I was impressed.
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Reply #31 - 03/01/16 at 14:34:17
 
DesertRat wrote on 02/29/16 at 22:03:04:
I have 5 months to graduation with my Business degree.


What is the discipline of your degree?  Your better off to get a professional certification and then work towards a graduate degree.  

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Reply #32 - 03/01/16 at 14:37:24
 
I tried to copy one of Lost Artists replies. The last one is so spot on, except that he fails to point out when the government started getting into the tuition loan business.
And seriously, look around at LIFE. What percentage of the JOBS in life need a college education? And how many jobs require a college education today that Didn't in the sixties? My dad, high school graduate, oil field worker, worked his way up and eventually ran a coupla oil companies. He was a consultant and had a plane and pilot and was ready to go anywhere, anytime, to get a well under control. He knew how, because he was part of the team that developed the techniques. He was in Libya and Nigeria in the sixties, overseeing the drilling. He was Just a high school graduate. Today, it takes a team of engineers to accomplish what he did.

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Reply #33 - 03/01/16 at 15:09:35
 
pg - Management, minor in Finance and Accounting


justin -
the problem was that I went that route, got tired of the "we only promote/hire college grads" line from companies. Which is why I went back to school.
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Reply #34 - 03/01/16 at 15:23:02
 
DesertRat wrote on 03/01/16 at 15:09:35:
pg - Management, minor in Finance and Accounting


justin -
the problem was that I went that route, got tired of the "we only promote/hire college grads" line from companies. Which is why I went back to school.


Amen... I made much better money and got far more respect as a "Consultant" than I did as an "Employee".     The college kids the HR department would hire as "managers" had ZERO real life experience and even less ability to think outside of what they found in the textbook.......  Shocked
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Reply #35 - 03/01/16 at 15:56:50
 
old.indian wrote on 03/01/16 at 15:23:02:
Amen... I made much better money and got far more respect as a "Consultant" than I did as an "Employee".     The college kids the HR department would hire as "managers" had ZERO real life experience and even less ability to think outside of what they found in the textbook.......  Shocked


I notice this in classes all the time. Kids don't question anything, they accept the "profession" of instructors as the gospel. CRAZY nuts is spoken as if it's the truth from G*d. I get into "trouble" all the time for calling B.S. ... only a few professors that have real world experience actually find it funny. The rest who've spent their careers in academia have no clue.
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Reply #36 - 03/01/16 at 16:48:22
 
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Again, I ask you, what PERCENTAGE OF THE POPULATION needs a college education?

I was Offered a chance to go to Texas Tech. I passed. Yes, could have made more money and worked less, b u t I Like work.
I didca y ear of college. Algebra, trig, chemistry and lab, all A and B. Burnt out. Real work has to be done. The oilfield runs on trucks, pumps, chains, sprockets, someone has to Build th, operate them, maintain them. I'm aware that we need doctors, etc. But I think the whole
You need a college education thing is way overblown.
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Reply #37 - 03/01/16 at 22:00:28
 
justin_o_guy2 wrote on 03/01/16 at 16:48:22:
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Again, I ask you, what PERCENTAGE OF THE POPULATION needs a college education?
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You need a college education thing is way overblown.




I'm not arguing that it's a necessity. My partner has worked in Accounting for 30+ years and makes very good money WITHOUT a college education. BTW justin... I'm blue collar ghetto stock. They used to be called okies. I've served our country (military made budget cuts and we went home), was a framer and carpenter (the economy tanked and we went home), I've got so many GTAW welding certs I lost track (the economy tanked again and we went home).

I've heard so much bullchit from suits with regard to promotions and pay and stability (all lies), I could give a ratsass what comes outta their mouth anymore. If you can't beat them join them.
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Reply #38 - 03/01/16 at 22:26:21
 
Both JOG2 AND 'Rat are correct.....   Many of the young people are wasting time and money on degrees that lead to neither jobs nor careers... They would be better served in a trade school, learning something that they can make a living doing.       Todays' society preaches that "You need a college degree to be successful. " Bull Feathers !!!!!               Conversely, the HR departments in companies / corporations are convinced that a specific degree from a specific College or university is an ABSOLUTE REQUIREMENT in order to perform certain positions....  
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Reply #39 - 03/01/16 at 22:58:39
 
the job market is even worse now with all the automation that HR folks have done to alleviate the "pressures" of the hiring process. If you do not meet very specific criteria, forget it. Even if you have the OJT and experience, without a degree your file 13'd.
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Reply #40 - 03/02/16 at 04:52:28
 
What we need are

JOBS

repeal the trade agreements
Lower corporate taxes to very low rates.
After all, EVERY product You buy is marked up, and that final price Includes Every penny it cost to create the product , which includes the taxes the company has to pay and the cost of obeying all those regulations.

The left should be particularly upset about the industry that has been sent overseas. THEY don't have the clean air requirements that our factories have. GLOBAL impact, the Air is blown hither and yon, before rain washes the crud out. Where does it land? What does it do? How many Texans are suffering from lead poisoning because of the battery recycling place in Mexico, where they stack the batteries and burn them, then pull the lead out of the pile?
Pretty sure those people need to go to college.

Americans need Jobs. Jobs that support families. The trade agreements destroyed that. The MEDIA , again, has been used to explain what we need, College, that is the answer. And what has it done? Waiters at Red Lobster and the sixty thousand dollar debt, but they have a degree in sociology!

Unless we are exporting more dollars worth of stuff than importing, we are going broke.

The debt based currency? It's a parasite.
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Reply #41 - 03/02/16 at 06:12:34
 
Justin, I agree with:

- on Jobs; but we must consider the fact that the boomers are retiring, without enough bodies to even fill the positions left open AND the fact that employers aren't willing to pay market rates to refill those positions, instead requesting the experience and education at entry-level wages.

- repealing the trade agreements; but realize we are subsidizing a lot of corporations to move to international markets

My FACT based disagreements, not parroted hearsay:

- Lowering corporate taxes; NOPE. The bulk of the taxes paid are from small-cap companies. Paying over 80% of the taxes levied on firms. Mid-cap firms tax contributions make up approximately 15% and Large-caps get REFUNDS totaling $100's of millions EACH. We should lower the tax rates for SMALL-CAPS, they provide the most bang for the buck to the economy. We should be taxing the piss out of LARGE-CAP firms.

- Imports; sorry but a major portion of those imports are from U.S. owned firms operating with impunity in international markets and parking their profits offshore to avoid taxes.
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Reply #42 - 03/02/16 at 14:03:49
 
Those companies are hiring foreign bodies and taking the money offshore, because taxes are so high here.
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Reply #43 - 03/02/16 at 19:40:33
 
justin_o_guy2 wrote on 03/02/16 at 14:03:49:
Those companies are hiring foreign bodies and taking the money offshore, because taxes are so high here.


Is it the taxes OR is it that the cost of labor offshore being so low that allows them to have such a high profit ???    
Q:   Why am I buying clothing made by a guy in Vietnam who's daddy was trying to kill me not so long ago ?  Undecided
A: Because the company who puts their label on the product can make a bigger profit by buying in Vietnam than they can by buying from a US manufacture.  Shocked
Stupid Hairballs forgot that Henry Ford pointed out that by paying his workers more , they were able to buy the product they made, which increased HIS pool of potential buyers..

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Reply #44 - 03/02/16 at 19:45:13
 
So, you can quote Ford.
What did he say about the federal reserve?
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