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DesertRat Serious Thumper Offline I love rat bikes! Posts: 1569 Arizona	What about CRUZ? 03/09/16 at 21:41:45 Does he have a shot when Trump finally drops out? http://2016.republican-candidates.org/Cruz/ What's YOUR take on him? What issues do you have with him?
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WebsterMark Serious Thumper Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 14438 Gender:	Re: What about CRUZ? Reply #1 - 03/10/16 at 04:55:30 Trump will never drop out. He might be forced out or they might find a way to take his delagates, but he's never going to drop out.
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pg Serious Thumper Offline Posts: 5274 In Transit	Re: What about CRUZ? Reply #2 - 03/10/16 at 05:20:53 I suspect Trump will win the popular vote for the nomination; although, he will not be the GOP's candidate. Best regards,
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WebsterMark Serious Thumper Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 14438 Gender:	Re: What about CRUZ? Reply #3 - 03/10/16 at 06:03:45 If he had majority of the delegates at the convention and they take it from him, who ever they give it to, Cruz or Rubio, they'll lose to Clinton. Unless of course, Hilary gets indicted and she could still beat Rubio while under indictment. If Cruz comes back and beats Trump fair and square, Trump endorses Cruz and Cruz beats Hilary.
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justin_o_guy2 Serious Thumper Offline What happened? Posts: 55279 East Texas, 1/2 dallas/la.	Re: What about CRUZ? Reply #4 - 03/10/16 at 06:56:41 And, IMO, unless it's a landslide that simply cannot be messed with, Hillary is Next. So, cruz, who I distrust Enormously, Trump, ascmuch authoritarian as Hillary, doesn't make a difference a nyway. We are well screwed. Cruz, IF he would Do what he said, would help turn America around. But, he's a Goldman Sachs puppet, I believe.
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Reply #5 - 03/10/16 at 07:27:18

Is it me, or is the GOP having it's own version of a self destructive civil war with the party leadership/"establishment" (against Trump at all cost) vs the party's rank and file who are voting for him in the primaries . (That is not a question. It is an observation.) Of course, the same holds true in the Democrat Party, just to a lesser extent. Her uncontested coronation is being annoyed. But in this case, the party's urban strongholds are more easily controlled by lack of ballots in those districts where the party's "pick" may have opposition, or miscounting, OR my favorite, ONE candidate's name on the ballot and write ins are disallowed..... Cool

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Reply #6 - 03/10/16 at 07:27:42

WebsterMark wrote on 03/10/16 at 06:03:45:

If he had majority of the delegates at the convention and they take it from him, who ever they give it to, Cruz or Rubio, they'll lose to Clinton. Unless of course, Hilary gets indicted and she could still beat Rubio while under indictment. If Cruz comes back and beats Trump fair and square, Trump endorses Cruz and Cruz beats Hilary.

If Trump gets to the convention with enough delegates to win on the first ballot he gets the nomination. At that point the GOP establishment throws in the towel. Conventional thinking is that Trump can't beat Hillary in the general and that suits the the worthless, dipsh*t RINOS in congress and the rest of the GOP just fine. They keep their seats and have Hillary to rail against for the next four - or maybe eight- years.

And the country continues to circle the drain. Angry

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Reply #7 - 03/10/16 at 07:55:39

I trust polls reported on the news,,, of COURSE I do. They would Not massage those numbers. Trump, according to the news, is declining in popularity. Well , IF, IF that's true, then why the big billionaire meeting yesterday or day before, as they wargamed ways to stop trump? The list of names was impressive, and finally, distressing. REPORTEDLY Elon Musk was among the attendees. He is the greatest entrepreneur that I am aware of in the last many years, outside of the cellphone industry. Is He afraid Trump would clamp down on crony capitalism? I sure would like to know Why Musk is against Trump. If I got a call from Musk, saying, invest everything you have in
Gimcracks Unlimited, I'd mortgage everything and do it. So, what is it that HE sees that makes him want Trump stopped?

Sidenote
Ron Paul says Hillary or trump take America down the same path. So, maybe Musk sees that.

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Serowbot YaBB Moderator ModSquad Offline OK.... so what's the speed of dark? Posts: 29676 Tucson Az Gender:	Re: What about CRUZ? Reply #8 - 03/10/16 at 09:16:31 I'm all for her... I think she would point me in the right direction...
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DesertRat Serious Thumper Offline I love rat bikes! Posts: 1569 Arizona	Re: What about CRUZ? Reply #9 - 03/10/16 at 10:31:55 yeah Bot, I'm in for that vote.
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old.indian Serious Thumper Offline Fighting Foreign Terrorism since 1492 Posts: 975 Central New Mexico Gender:	Re: What about CRUZ? Reply #10 - 03/10/16 at 16:16:35 This is the way to keep the party together. Insult other candidate's voters / backers... That'll Work ... Yep..... http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2016/03/10/cruz-says-trump-backers-have-relat...
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Reply #11 - 03/10/16 at 17:23:00

Who even likes Cruz? Tongue

He rubs people the wrong way. I don't like him. Poor personality.

Hmmm...

Jerry Eichenberger called him "inflexible." http://suzukisavage.com/cgi-bin/YaBB.pl?num=1455650968/90#90 Maybe that's it... He's annoyingly stubborn! Cruz is a stubborn, fiery orator that pisses everybody off. Remember that stunt that made him famous? --That crazy night-long filibuster where he wouldn't shut his mouth? I vaguely remember--plenty of you here remember it better than I do.

Trump is different-- He skips the eloquence and talks more like a common man. Common people who are frustrated with empty eloquence and the establishment prefer Trump's kind of speech. Even Trump's cussing could be considered attractive to some because it means he has the balls to say what he wants, even if it breaks all the rules of what is considered politically correct or proper. It's another example of bucking the establishment. Unfortunately, he says he won't do it anymore.

I might vote for Cruz in November if I have to. He's not my favorite.

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Reply #12 - 03/10/16 at 19:34:37

I think Cruz is a globalist. Yet, he Did filibuster for 21 hours against Bamicare. Was it just shadowboxing ? I heard him say that the executive orders Bammy shoved down our throats could be reversed the same way. I've HEARD him say some very exciting things, Constitution and reason, such good stuff, in under five minutes, he hit so many Real policy issues and I agreed with it all. And, I Don't like a Lot of what Trump stands for. He really is a collectivist, but I doubt even he knows it. His position on
Imminent Domain identifies him.

And now , look who is joining up as
Economic Advisor for the Cruz candidacy.
Gee, what is HIS history?

The Bush family and the S&L (Savings and Loan) Scandal
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The Bush family and the S&L Scandal. Neil, George Jr., George Sr., and Jeb Bush. The Savings and Loan industry had ...
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‎Early years - ‎Philanthropist and charity ... - ‎Silverado Savings & Loan
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The savings and loan crisis of the 1980s and 1990s (commonly dubbed the S&L crisis) was the failure of ... 4 Scandals.
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Sep 22, 1990 - LEAD: Federal regulators today sued Neil M. Bush, the President's ... But it said that in the three years Mr. Bush was a director of the Silverado Banking, Savings and Loan Association, ...
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In some cases Bush family members helped skim Savings and Loan funds ... to protect those guilty of misconduct in the Savings and Loan scandal (Kwitny, 1992 : 24). ... Walters and Good, after securing the loans from Silverado, lent Neil Bush ...
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Cruz Finance Team Member Had Multiple Conflicts Of Interest In 1980s Loan Scandal
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Yeah, I made it all up.

I Wonder which Bush will get VP.
The question about whether or not Cruz is a globalist or a patriot will be answered, though, bringing Neil in , to me, screams globalist, but maybe he's thinking that he can just Use the Bush connections and then not honor the debt. Yeah, JFK forgot about how much the mob helped him. Not saying that they were responsible for the murder, but they are certainly on the long list of suspects..... anyway,IF he's Really a patriot and Will Not back down, then some crazed lone gunman will shoot him.

Ron Paul is the only presidential candidate I've ever voted
FOR. I've voted, only to hopefully keep the crummier option out every other time. I don't remember if Ron Paul was On the ballot or if I just wrote it in.

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