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Reply #15 - 02/21/18 at 13:18:30
 
oldNslow wrote on 02/21/18 at 12:20:18:
I never said anything about believing him to be an actor. I never said that I doubted his sincerity or his pain. I have no way to ascertain those things.

I said that I believe he is being used and manipulated by others for their political agenda, which may or may not be his own.

By whom?  What "others"?  There is simply no grounds for that assumption other than a two-bit POS internet author.  This whole thing was started so that folks who think like you would come to the very same conclusion.  But the fact remains that there is no basis for that assumption.

" How do you know he's being used? "

Because I have seen how these things play out time and time again. I have no reason to believe that this case is any different.


What cases?  Do you have examples?  If there are, I would assume it would be a cut and dried case - Patty Hearst comes to mind, as do the heaven's gate kids.

But this "child" came out the day after and started his campaign.  Sorry, but the democrats aren't that good...
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Reply #16 - 02/21/18 at 13:28:48
 
Alfonso Calderon, a junior at Stoneman Douglas, warned critics who have dismissed the “Never Again” campaign as a knee-jerk reaction by traumatized kids.

“A lot of people think that that disqualifies us from even having an opinion on this sort of matter,” Calderon said. “It’s that because we’ve been through a traumatic experience that we don’t know what we’re talking about, that we’re speaking irrationally. I want everybody to remember, that is not the case. We, more than anybody else, understand the violence, when it comes to certain guns. We, more than anybody else, understand what it feels like to lose somebody. We, more than anybody else, know what it’s like to have a beautiful community like Parkland and have it taken away from us.”

“Trust me, I understand,” Calderon continued. “I was in a closet locked for four hours with people who I would consider almost family, crying and weeping on me, begging for their lives. I understand what it’s like to text my parents, ’Goodbye. I might never, ever ever get to see you again. And I love you.’”


That sounds to me like a very in-touch and intelligent young man.  The democrats aren't that smart.
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Reply #17 - 02/21/18 at 14:05:16
 
Well written response, he should run for president.
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Reply #18 - 02/21/18 at 15:51:10
 
verslagen1 wrote on 02/21/18 at 14:05:16:
Well written response, he should run for president.


I agree.  He'd do better than our current president.
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Reply #19 - 02/21/18 at 16:51:14
 
Everybody agrees it's time to address the problem.
The question is how Best to do it.

The Gun control crowd designed the Signs.
Not working out.
Good guys with guns hasn't been tried yet nationwide.
It's time.
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Reply #20 - 02/22/18 at 04:22:43
 
Some other students. They were there too.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2018/02/22/florida-shooting-survivor-cnn-gave...

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2018/02/20/florida-school-shooting-survivor-media-i...

Won't hear from them on CNN, MSNBC, ABC, ABS etc.

Just watched the "town hall", moderated by Jake Tapper outtakes on Good Morning America., Carefully crafted gun-control talking points, and "gotcha" questions for the Republican (Rubio) and the woman representing the NRA. Nothing from anyone who might possibly have a different opinion or a new idea.

Advocacy theater rather than journalism. With carefully selected kids and parents, sincere as they probably are, being used as pawns.

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Reply #21 - 02/22/18 at 05:49:39
 
oldNslow wrote on 02/22/18 at 04:22:43:
Some other students. They were there too.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2018/02/22/florida-shooting-survivor-cnn-gave...

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2018/02/20/florida-school-shooting-survivor-media-i...

Won't hear from them on CNN, MSNBC, ABC, ABS etc.

Just watched the "town hall", moderated by Jake Tapper outtakes on Good Morning America., Carefully crafted gun-control talking points, and "gotcha" questions for the Republican (Rubio) and the woman representing the NRA. Nothing from anyone who might possibly have a different opinion or a new idea.

Advocacy theater rather than journalism. With carefully selected kids and parents, sincere as they probably are, being used as pawns.



Well, specifically - 2 other students.  Yes, their views should have been taken as well.  However, their views in no way negate the legitimacy of the others speaking out for gun control.  I also agree that the media needs to allow everyone's opinion (don't see any pro gun control stories on fox, do you?).  However, the opinion of the country is overwhelmingly in favor of some kind of gun control.  That's a fact.
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Reply #22 - 02/22/18 at 08:17:18
 
Current reporting to NICS by the states is voluntary, should be mandatory.
3 days is not enough time, should be 2 weeks.
Family should be included in check.
A minimum 5 years of history should be required for high powered weapons.
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Reply #23 - 02/22/18 at 08:35:50
 
verslagen1 wrote on 02/22/18 at 08:17:18:
Current reporting to NICS by the states is voluntary, should be mandatory.
3 days is not enough time, should be 2 weeks.
Family should be included in check.
A minimum 5 years of history should be required for high powered weapons.



sounds reasonable.
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Reply #24 - 02/22/18 at 11:30:16
 
verslagen1 wrote on 02/22/18 at 08:17:18:
Current reporting to NICS by the states is voluntary, should be mandatory.
3 days is not enough time, should be 2 weeks.
Family should be included in check.
A minimum 5 years of history should be required for high powered weapons.



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Reply #25 - 02/22/18 at 13:02:39
 
FormerlyLostArtist wrote on 02/22/18 at 08:35:50:
verslagen1 wrote on 02/22/18 at 08:17:18:
Current reporting to NICS by the states is voluntary, should be mandatory.
3 days is not enough time, should be 2 weeks.
Family should be included in check.
A minimum 5 years of history should be required for high powered weapons.



sounds reasonable.



funny how we couldn't even talk about that at all under Obama, cause any mention of that kind of reasonable restrictions were met with "he's coming for your guns" BS
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Reply #26 - 02/22/18 at 13:30:03
 
FormerlyLostArtist wrote on 02/22/18 at 13:02:39:
funny how we couldn't even talk about that at all under Obama, cause any mention of that kind of reasonable restrictions were met with "he's coming for your guns" BS


There was/is still a lack of due process with many of the regulations provided by the left.
LaPierre says he's brought up the Background check issues 3 years ago.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/nra-wayne-lapierre-elites-don-155452736.html

may not be the 1st video, but was some where in the chain of vid's
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Reply #27 - 02/22/18 at 13:33:28
 
FormerlyLostArtist wrote on 02/22/18 at 13:02:39:
FormerlyLostArtist wrote on 02/22/18 at 08:35:50:
verslagen1 wrote on 02/22/18 at 08:17:18:
Current reporting to NICS by the states is voluntary, should be mandatory.
3 days is not enough time, should be 2 weeks.
Family should be included in check.
A minimum 5 years of history should be required for high powered weapons.



sounds reasonable.



funny how we couldn't even talk about that at all under Obama, cause any mention of that kind of reasonable restrictions were met with "he's coming for your guns" BS


Sometimes things/ideas, just need to marinade,before they are ripe.
It’s not a personality issue.
Perhaps even someday we can address other issues, like separation of, not from, religion.
Funny, odd, and yet sad, when we see folks exhibit and fault other for intolerance, yet justify their own.

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Reply #28 - 02/22/18 at 14:12:53
 
raydawg wrote on 02/22/18 at 13:33:28:
FormerlyLostArtist wrote on 02/22/18 at 13:02:39:
FormerlyLostArtist wrote on 02/22/18 at 08:35:50:
verslagen1 wrote on 02/22/18 at 08:17:18:
Current reporting to NICS by the states is voluntary, should be mandatory.
3 days is not enough time, should be 2 weeks.
Family should be included in check.
A minimum 5 years of history should be required for high powered weapons.



sounds reasonable.



funny how we couldn't even talk about that at all under Obama, cause any mention of that kind of reasonable restrictions were met with "he's coming for your guns" BS


Sometimes things/ideas, just need to marinade,before they are ripe.
It’s not a personality issue.
Perhaps even someday we can address other issues, like separation of, not from, religion.
Funny, odd, and yet sad, when we see folks exhibit and fault other for intolerance, yet justify their own.




no, that's BS

the idea of reasonable gun control has been around for decades, it's marinated enough.

this is a hypocrisy problem.
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Reply #29 - 02/22/18 at 14:22:10
 
verslagen1 wrote on 02/22/18 at 13:30:03:
FormerlyLostArtist wrote on 02/22/18 at 13:02:39:
funny how we couldn't even talk about that at all under Obama, cause any mention of that kind of reasonable restrictions were met with "he's coming for your guns" BS


There was/is still a lack of due process with many of the regulations provided by the left.
LaPierre says he's brought up the Background check issues 3 years ago.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/nra-wayne-lapierre-elites-don-155452736.html

may not be the 1st video, but was some where in the chain of vid's



uh huh....


you get that from your NRA newsletter?

there have been a bunch of different proposals from all over the left, for DECADES, sometimes they were willing to work with the republicans and they could have added things to address your concerns of "lack of due process"  

and I'm not sitting through all those videos of NRA propaganda, find a proposal he drew up, present that.

I googled "LaPierre says he's brought up the Background check "   and a bunch of stuff came up saying that what you say can't be true.
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