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Reply #45 - 02/24/18 at 06:55:18
 
Lost - don't waste your time or keystrokes on that.

Bat$hit crazy won't listen to reason.

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Reply #46 - 02/24/18 at 07:16:00
 
If
Just
ONE
of the Official Authorities who had ample opportunity to step in HAD done what they should have,
This conversation wouldn't be happening.

If a few teachers had been armed,
We might still be having the conversation,
But the number dead and wounded would likely be
Much lower.
The history of the shooters shows they usually surrender or suicide when confronted.
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Reply #47 - 02/24/18 at 08:49:36
 
justin_o_guy2 wrote on 02/24/18 at 07:16:00:
The history of the shooters shows they usually surrender or suicide when confronted.


Before or after they shoot you?... Huh
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Reply #48 - 02/24/18 at 10:46:53
 
Hard to believe you're serious.
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Reply #49 - 02/24/18 at 23:10:02
 
verslagen1,

here's the other side that your NRA leadership isn't bragging about/marketing to you:

https://www.cnn.com/2018/02/23/us/nra-criticizes-gaps-it-created-in-gun-backg...

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"This madman passed a background check. How was he able to pass a background check? He was able to pass a background check because we have a system that's flawed," Loesch said on stage. "It is not federal law for states to report convictions to the NICS system. It is not federally mandated. That's the big question, and I wish that this network had also covered this more."

In fact, it was the NRA that led the effort to block the federal mandate, by financing and arguing the US Supreme Court case that let states off the hook. The 1997 decision in Printz v. United States threw out part of the Brady Handgun Violence Prevention Act, and made it optional for local courts, police departments and states to submit background information on residents.

...

In 1997, the Supreme Court sided with the NRA and Ravalli County Sheriff Jay Printz of Montana. Justice Antonin Scalia wrote the court's opinion, which was largely driven by the concepts of federalism. The Constitution's 10th Amendment limited the federal government power over state and local governments, the court decided.
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Reply #50 - 02/24/18 at 23:25:52
 
That's every bit as respectful to the constitution as the ruling that allows abortion because the unborn are neither born nor naturalized.

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Reply #51 - 02/25/18 at 13:10:56
 
justin_o_guy2 wrote on 02/24/18 at 23:25:52:
That's every bit as respectful to the constitution as the ruling that allows abortion because the unborn are neither born nor naturalized.




oh look, big surprise, another... say it with me folks.....

WHATABOUTISM!!!

brought to you from the guy that says he wants to debate facts with facts... but just as long as they have nothing to do with each other I guess..
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Reply #52 - 02/25/18 at 13:19:46
 
[quote author=6D4459464E5947526744585F6A595F42585F2B0 link=1519162280/45#51 date=1519593056]justin_o_guy2 wrote on 02/24/18 at 23:25:52:
That's every bit as respectful to the constitution as the ruling that allows abortion because the unborn are neither born nor naturalized.


oh look, big surprise, another... say it with me folks.....

WHATABOUTISM!!!

brought to you from the guy that says he wants to debate facts with facts... but just as long as they have nothing to do with each other I guess..

pay no attention to the jog behind the curtain Wink
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Reply #53 - 02/25/18 at 13:39:07
 
I guess you don't understand the legal importance of
Precedent.
Do you really not understand why those legal decisions are supported by the exact same elements?
When you guys get beat you call the logical comparison
Whataboutism.
It's a legal argument.
Both positions are legally made possible by the same logical argument.
But it's
Whataboutism..
Right..
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Reply #54 - 02/26/18 at 10:20:01
 
justin_o_guy2 wrote on 02/25/18 at 13:39:07:
I guess you don't understand the legal importance of
Precedent.
Do you really not understand why those legal decisions are supported by the exact same elements?
When you guys get beat you call the logical comparison
Whataboutism.
It's a legal argument.
Both positions are legally made possible by the same logical argument.
But it's
Whataboutism..
Right..



then you really misunderstand the abortion ruling:

The U.S. Supreme Court, in 7-2 vote, agreed with Roe that Texas's law criminalizing abortion violated her right to privacy. But the Court held that states do have an interest in ensuring the safety and well-being of pregnant women, as well as the potential of human life.

Acknowledging that the rights of pregnant women may conflict with the rights of the state to protect potential human life, the Court defined the rights of each party by dividing a pregnancy into three 12-week trimesters:

During a pregnant woman's first trimester, the Court held, a state cannot regulate abortion beyond requiring that the procedure be performed by a licensed doctor in medically safe conditions.
During the second trimester, the Court held, a state may regulate abortion if the regulations are reasonably related to the health of the pregnant woman.
During the third trimester of pregnancy, the state's interest in protecting the potential human life outweighs the woman's right to privacy, and the state may prohibit abortions unless abortion is necessary to save the life or health of the mother.

and no point does it mention "naturalization" for anything.  and the gun debate I put up above also has NOTHING to do with naturalization or born or unborn or ANYTHING OF THE SORT.

I posted that article to refute this idea that NRA is somehow pro-background check, it proves that they have a long history of supporting anti-background check movements.  

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you're going to have to start actually explaining your drive-bys if you want to, as you keep saying, have reasonable rational discussion about them.  

the Roe V Wade decision regulates the constitutional right to privacy based on the sanctity of the right of human life, why can't the constitutional right to bear arms be regulated based on the same thing?


or are you arguing that both the constitutional right to privacy and the right to bear arms should both be equally "unabridged" to the max?



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Reply #55 - 02/26/18 at 10:59:54
 
I WATCHED Hillary state exactly what I said.

And,

https://barbwire.com/2018/01/20/past-time-reject-roe-v-wade-invincible-precedent
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Blackmun argued that the reference to “person” in the 14th Amendment means “citizens” who are born or naturalized in the United States. “All this together with our observation … persuades us that the word person does not include the unborn.”12 The fact that aliens, who are neither born in the U.S. nor naturalized, are persons protected by the Amendment was of no moment to Blackmun.

Blackmun arbitrarily refused to include the unborn in the doctrine of “personhood,” even though “person” in the 14th Amendment, according to the Court, includes inanimate entities such as corporations and ships. Blackmun’s conclusion went further than the 14th Amendment: “In short, the unborn have never been recognized in the law as persons in the whole sense.”13
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Reply #56 - 02/26/18 at 12:29:23
 
T And T Garage wrote on 02/20/18 at 13:31:20:
This guy is a trip!

Yeah, the lefties are using these kids as puppets... <<<sarcasm

GP is becoming even more of a joke than it was before.

http://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/pro-trump-journalist-defends-hit-piece-flo...


Hmm... seems some folks on here cant remember what the original topic was...

See above.
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Reply #57 - 03/01/18 at 11:06:02
 
T And T Garage wrote on 02/22/18 at 05:49:39:
oldNslow wrote on 02/22/18 at 04:22:43:
Some other students. They were there too.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2018/02/22/florida-shooting-survivor-cnn-gave...

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2018/02/20/florida-school-shooting-survivor-media-i...

Won't hear from them on CNN, MSNBC, ABC, ABS etc.

Just watched the "town hall", moderated by Jake Tapper outtakes on Good Morning America., Carefully crafted gun-control talking points, and "gotcha" questions for the Republican (Rubio) and the woman representing the NRA. Nothing from anyone who might possibly have a different opinion or a new idea.

Advocacy theater rather than journalism. With carefully selected kids and parents, sincere as they probably are, being used as pawns.



Well, specifically - 2 other students.  Yes, their views should have been taken as well.  However, their views in no way negate the legitimacy of the others speaking out for gun control.  I also agree that the media needs to allow everyone's opinion (don't see any pro gun control stories on fox, do you?).  However, the opinion of the country is overwhelmingly in favor of some kind of gun control.  That's a fact.



Well, well - Look at this little tidbit that just came out:



Wait - is this fake news, or....?

The father says there was no bad intention.... HA!!  His intention was nothing but bad.

Shame.
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Reply #58 - 03/01/18 at 13:59:56
 
Fake news?... Faux News...
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Reply #59 - 03/01/18 at 14:15:06
 
Serowbot wrote on 03/01/18 at 13:59:56:
Fake news?... Faux News...



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