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Reply #30 - 08/23/18 at 16:53:29
 
WebsterMark wrote on 08/23/18 at 16:50:46:
Serowbot wrote on 08/23/18 at 14:57:33:
Trump is only repeating Tucker Carlson's bullet points from White Nationalist propaganda on this topic.

This Presidents international advisers are TV personalties...
...and their sources are racist White Nationalists...
That's frikkin' scary... Huh


TDS.


So then mark - you think it's totally fine for our president to tweet out what he did based on a tucker carlson segment on fox?

Unless you mean that trump himself is suffering from TDS - now that I might believe.
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Reply #31 - 08/24/18 at 04:52:31
 
Was Tucker's report accurate or not?
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Reply #32 - 08/24/18 at 05:33:44
 
WebsterMark wrote on 08/24/18 at 04:52:31:
Was Tucker's report accurate or not?


It was inaccurate.  It fell in line with white nationalist propaganda.  There's no "there" there.

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/aug/23/white-farmers-trump-south-africa...

http://www.mediamatters.org/blog/2018/08/23/trump-s-south-africa-tweet-tucker...

So again, it's not that I dislike tucker carlson making such reports - he's a show host, not a journalist.  The problem I have is that our president bases his policy and plans investigations base on this a$$-hat.

I'd be just as irate if Obama had done this with someone like maddow.
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Reply #33 - 08/24/18 at 07:25:26
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1r8CyRxG8GI

From last night. Watch from 6:18 - 15:33
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Reply #34 - 08/24/18 at 08:01:29
 
WebsterMark wrote on 08/24/18 at 07:25:26:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1r8CyRxG8GI

From last night. Watch from 6:18 - 15:33



Watched - and learned.

If you base the South African government on julius malema, then you must also base the republican party on the KKK, the alt-right and the like.

malema is not a "pivotal" part of South Africa - he's an extremist racist that's been expelled from the ANC for hate speech and is currently being pursued by AriForum for corruption.

Ramaphosa (the current president) has very different views than malema.  I wonder why tucker didn't cover that?

One of the funnies things tucker said was "why would you take the statistics from the government at face value?  That's insane, and our State Department does."

Not sure what we're supposed to do here tucker.... malema is an extremeist and doesn't have any final say on land expropriation.  But of course, that's not discussed.

tucker is a pot stirring show host.  That's pretty much it.  He's no better than al sharpton
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Reply #35 - 08/24/18 at 08:18:32
 
You can argue Trump's timing I don't really care, that in itself is motivated solely by hate. To deny that the report is not accurate is to deny reality.
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Reply #36 - 08/24/18 at 08:37:51
 
MShipley wrote on 08/24/18 at 08:18:32:
You can argue Trump's timing I don't really care, that in itself is motivated solely by hate.

No, the motivation is concern.  All you have to do is look at the man's tweets.  He truly is unhinged.  It's about what's right and how a president should conduct himself.

To deny that the report is not accurate is to deny reality.


I'm not saying there hasn't been killings, there's no denying that.  But what tucker and his cohorts are saying is that the scale is greater than it is.  That's misleading at best.  Further, he's referencing a far left extremist to be the position of the entire Parliament.  It's simply false.
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Reply #37 - 08/24/18 at 08:53:07
 
Further, he's referencing a far left extremist to be the position of the entire Parliament

He absolutely did NOT do that. In fact, I distinctly remember him saying that party controls a third of Parliament. But consider if the KKK controlled a third of Congress?

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Reply #38 - 08/24/18 at 09:02:00
 
WebsterMark wrote on 08/24/18 at 08:53:07:
Further, he's referencing a far left extremist to be the position of the entire Parliament

He absolutely did NOT do that. In fact, I distinctly remember him saying that party controls a third of Parliament.

Well, he's wrong about that:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parliament_of_South_Africa

To be fair, no - he didn't come right out and say that.  But he sure didn't cover the fact that Ramaphosa has rejected everything that malema has put forward.  As always, context matters.

But consider if the KKK controlled a third of Congress?

Again, he can say what he wants, he's a talk show host.  But our president should know better.
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