zevenenergie wrote on 10/23/24 at 11:17:36:TheBabyDerp wrote on 10/23/24 at 10:51:43:Cool story but:
It's far from a cool story.
And It is remarkable that believers always claim to be right because they adhere to a faith.
3. The Church has taken care of the the problem, and actively assists law enforcement. My diocese maintains a list and makes every single instance public. Even in cases that were 60 years ago, my diocese exposes them. The Church does not support sin. I am sorry if you were effected by bad actors within the Church.
Tanks I was not effected.
You can't expect organized crime to correct itself. ******************
Zev, are you perfect ?
Without character or moral imperfections ?
The truthful answer is NO.
Your right i,m not.
Every human on this planet is born with a corrupt nature, just like me and you. It makes no difference whether or not you believe who Jesus is.
We are not born like this, we become like this.Imperfect people do things that are wrong, whether they attend a church, a mosk, a temple, etc. Everyone is capable and will lie, cheat, steal, hate, murder, abuse, and many other crimes ( crime = sin = violating God’s laws ).
Do you murder steal and abuse? I don,t. Do you have some expectation that folks who believe in God are supposed to be perfect ?
I think that people who believe in a god outside of themselves often have an ideal image of how Jesus or a clergyman should behave. And they want everyone to behave that way. I think that is a bad thing because it is unnatural.
Something like a clergyman who thinks he has to be celibate and his sexuality that is not transformed, finds a perverse way out. I think it is inherently wrong when someone shows artificial behavior. And because they are not, then that means that they are all liars who participate in a great rouge to try to convince all others that they are perfect ?
A believer is not perfect, they are just an imperfect being who has been saved from the (final) death penalty that God has in store for unbelievers.
Say what? Like everyone, we live day to day trying to do our best. We do some things well and other things not.
Organizations don’t sin, individuals do that.
Just like you and I.
I think you have no idea how widespread child abuse is in the church.
There is a huge denial on this subject. And these people are indeed organized. And there is practically no talk of individual cases within the church. It is a network. That is why so little is said about it and that it will never stop. It is an ideal cover for pedophiles.
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